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How to get that done. >> are democrats hoping to scale it back even more or passing various pieces as stand alones may be attracting senator manchin or even some gop on some of these issues? >> well, that's a strategy decision that's being negotiated. we are open to a way to reach the finish line. we want to make it as comprehensive as possible because the needs are just there. >> reporter: now there does appear to be a holiday pause underway as they regroup to try to figure out exactly how they can get this bill passed and what strategy will serve them best. president biden for his part, he r...

Doing things through executive action there are limits to that but also a lot of extensions execs stories with executive action. president obama legalize the so-called dreamers through executive action, that was a biggest achievement for democrats all done throughout the congress. i think you get is the accommodation of efforts, you will see them talk to joe manchin continuing but i do expect president biden will try to do things out of barack obama's playbook which is to circumvent congress when things are getting done. that's what i see in the coming years. julie: ben cardin pointed out the ...

Economy. you got to deal with the cost of higher education. we know working families have tax issues. we have to extend certain tax provisions to help working families and families with children. there are things that need to get done that shouldn't be partisan. we should be able to get these issues worked out. we are prepared to move we just need to make sure we have unanimity in our caucus and that's what we are working on and we will start on that next week when we returned. >> to your point are democrats looking to scaling it back more or passing standalone's that may attract senator mansi...

And rather a series of attacks on michael cohen's credibility. which fair enough. but is what the president has done here defensible? house republicans' actions in the hearing seem to suggest they don't think it is. >> if they had something to defend they would have done this. i mean, i know this conference very well and they're not shy about defending the president. so i think jim jordan did it to the extent he could. and probably more pugnacious than most and the embodiment of this conference. they are all about fight. they are very much in the president's corner and will defend him to great...

President's actions. and rather a series of attacks on michael cohen's credibility. which fair enough. but is what the president has done here defensible? house republicans' actions in the hearing seem to suggest they don't think it is. >> if they had something to defend they would have done this. i mean, i know this conference very well and they're not shy about defending the president. so i think jim jordan did it to the extent he could. and probably more pugnacious than most and the embodiment of this conference. they are all about fight. they are very much in the president's corner and wil...