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Know what she does? she deflects. she has an answer. you can't win against donald trump right now. he type he make outrageous state is worth $20 million in advertising. it's smart for hillary clinton not to bait trump because he will take it every time and he will get much more air time than hillary clinton will ever get in a fight with donald trump. bill: wouldn't you like to see hillary clinton go after donald trump? a cage match. >> brad is correct from a strategy standpoint, she is correct not to take the bait from hip or offer bait to him. she can't win the media war on that. beside, she ...

Strategy standpoint. not an accident that she went on a comedy show. >> they all do that now. >> i know we had an undercover producer in the audience. and i don't want to you give specifics because we want to be be fair show jim. we don't want to ruin the show. don rick kels? nice hair? hockey puck? >> softball questions about the emails. >> no, no, her persona. was she trying to be funny about trump. >> i saw the notes. i didn't see the actual video. i wanted to be honest and fair and didn't get the feel for how she was. not normally as good as her husband on that format when he went on arsen...

Strategist expertise. you know elizabeth warren she was asked whether she campaigned for bernie sanders. she said quote, too early to say, but also added, i love what bernie is talking about. now, what would the impact be if sanders does get endorsements from nationally known progressives like elizabeth warren or bill de blasio? >> well from a purely strategy standpoint, you want earned media. what earned media means is that you're getting pr that you're not paying for. clearly that alone will be very helpful to bernie sanders. also elizabeth warren raises money. people don't talk about this a...

Of them to snitch on the others? >> well right now i would assume that their attorneys are having real kfgtss with them letting them know what they're facing what the charges are and what their options are. if you have six defendants somebody is going to the prosecutor and saying listen my client does not want to spend the rest of their life in jail. they don't want to spend one day in jail being police officers and they're working out some type of disposition. if that means flipping so, be it. >> is that part of the reason why you put six officers in there? you increase the number, you increa...

>> it's sad to see this reaction from americans around the country and also understandable. these are people's homes and communities and they are seeing strangers coming in and being a drain on the system. i absolutely get where the reaction comes from. hogan, do you think this system that doesn't know what to do with this flood of individuals aacross the border is a consequence of congress not acting on immigration reform? >> it starts at the top and in most of these instances we have no one stepping up and saying, this is what we should be doing. we're talking about immigration reform in com...