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Ban. remember, the trafficking ban applies to straw purchases which incredibly are not prohibited now effectively under federal law. >> and straw purchases, it's legal for you to buy a gun, but then you deliver the gun to somebody for whom it would be illegal to purchase it. >> in effect, the licensed dealer is selling a gun to someone who knows is a straw purchaser, someone who is buying it for someone else. and that should be punished. and this bill would make it punishable. and of course school safety is very acceptable. the toughest climb will probably be the assault weapon ban. but rememb...

Peet there. you co-sponsored the bill on illegal trafficking. what are you trying to accomplish especially from the perspective of someone who represents urban communities? >> well, it's very important with regard to urban communities because what we're finding is that folks are finding you'll get a criminal who then goes to a person who has no record and gets that person to purchase guns and then they will send those guns to urban areas. and so you may have a situation like we recently had in georgia where guns were being sent that a state where revehicles are not as strong, they then send th...

That problem, and i'm convinced that the only people that should be against this bill is the criminal or the person who wants to be a straw purchaser. >> one would think so. >> i would think so. >> congressman rigell, your party has traditionally sided with the nra. you have reflected you have long been a supporter of then ra. given the comments of people like wayne lapierre who opposes background checks, is it your view, sir, that republicans like yourself are maybe beginning to rethink their allegiance to the gun lobby? >> well, what we're doing here today i think reflects common sense commo...

Than 500 gun homicides last year alone. assuming your bill passes, how is it possible to determine if someone is a straw purchaser and how can a store be held liable for a straw purchase? >> well, let me give you an example. >> thank you. >> we have a situation where a number of guns that ended up in oakland that came from georgia, and they were bought by a straw purchaser. a woman in georgia bought guns for her boyfriend who had a criminal record. you know what he did then? he then sends them -- sells them to folks in oakland. the point is that this goes to that straw purchaser. it's going to...

>> there's no cream to be a straw purchaser and to take weapons from a state like -- a southern state and bring it up to new york and sell it out of your truck to criminals. there's no law that says you can't do that, and so now we're giving law enforcement the tools they need to go after these criminals and these criminal networks to make sure they can't be selling the guns right out of the back of a truck. >> what about background checks? what about registration? >> huge. the backgrounds bill is vitally important. senator schumer has been working on this issue for a very long time. what his ...