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America and the vaccinated america. and there are two strains of the republican party as well. there are is main stream republicans like mcconnell who want people to get vaccinated, who are speaking out, who are urging it. but there are the populist trump republicans who are on the other winnipeg of the party, some of whom are warning president biden's door nocks effort, to get people vaccinated, to go door-to-door is like the nazi brown shirts or a move to take your guns away. >> dr. ja, let's sort of look at this in the real world. perception is reality in a lot of cases. as a public expert,...

Conspiracy theories fairly serious ones, probably more than a lot of people in the western world but not the basis for the republican party. regular main stream republicans can't possibly be buying this because it's dangerous to do so. >> look, i'm a bit at lose for words as we keep having a conerconre conversation nationally. there is a conspiracy theory that can be debated. at the end of the day it's a moral failure on the part of our republican leaders. it's an abandonment of truth, one of which they have no self-respect or self-reflection and i'm surprised they can look themselves in the m...

Looking desperately for leadership. >> but you stood up and took action. is it incumbent upon real if i can use this phrase, real main stream republicans, when you have somebody like jason lewis who compares lgbtq people to rapists, criminals, and polygamistes, alleges same sex parents are harming their children by identifying as lgbtq, does -- can you be a main stream republican and not stand up as you have, as christie todd whitman did, and say, that's not okay? >> well, i agree a hundred percent. people must stand up and speak. i hope that when we do it that it makes it easier for others to...

Cabin republicans are made up of people who have spent decades fighting for civil rights, fighting for equal rights for all americans, fighting especially for the lgbtq community and i just simply could not remain and stand by an organization that endorsed a president whose record is so abysmally poor on these issues. whether it's the lgbtq community or any other group of people in our country who has ever had to fight for inclusion and fight for recognition. this president has been awful on these issues of freedom and equality and inclusion. i want to say i don't think that main stream republ...

Minorities invaders, all of this really damaging rhetoric the president is consistently using. at the end of the day, i can't quite see practically the means that what exactly the democratic candidates hope to achieve by calling the president a white supremacist other than checking a box. i'm not sure any other wills hear elizabeth warren call him a white supremacist and change their minds. >> neither option is great for our country. >> i think republicans being swayed either way, i think the main stream republicans that the trump campaign is arguing it will help them with, i have my doubts. t...