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Language and also says he's an every day guy despite the billions, the gold plated apartment here in new york city. and constant bragging about all of the above he's talking sort of like a street guy, the guy on the bar stool next to you complaining about this one and that one and point out in terms of has it gone too far that trump does better in polls when he makes what many in the media are think are outlandish statements of policy and getting the bump, more support. when he first launched the campaign talking about illegal immigration and his remarks about mexican immigrants coming into th...

>> i just came here to sit down. you hit a certain aiming and you s -- a certain age and you say, i can sit, i will do the show. >> you are on a show"saturday n? >> yes, it's doing great, this week we are having prince. yeah. >> that's when i first saw you, i was in probably junior high, i was watching saturday night live, therity it is. look at it. look at this. >> that was when i was still with the jackson 5. yeah. oh, god that -- that is fright thing. >> you seemed like a street guy. you reminded me of one of the sweat hogs. >> thank you, that puts the hipness level right in place, the swea...

Intellectual. >> yeah. >> so when you think intellectually about your kids, how they would get into a police situation. how would you see it escalating? like the guy who was a street guy, he didn't go to college or anything. how did that escalate? all of a sudden they're treating him like he's a criminal, like he's a real felon. that's weird. cops escalated that, i would argue. but michael brown, who had been involved in a crime, maybe not the worst crime in history but a crime of larceny, and in this case, what would you think would happen? in your blind side when you think of your young son ...

Talking about that, david, michelle and john. i know you've been very passionate about this as a mother of a couple boys. >> a boy and a girl. >> you know about the feelings. you have them. >> you can't help but have them. i saw a drama on nbc where a female president who's african-american, her son was killed, and she said to one of the characters in the program, this war is going to make all of us killers. and she was talking about women. i think a lot of african-american american women in particular feel that way because we are watching what feels to us like a battle that is being waged. pe...

He's traveling to colorado tomorrow, traveling to connecticut next week. >> why do i, who has an appetite for obama, who would like to see him out front being our nation's leader, not just a head of the country, but the actual leader on big left/right fights like gun safety -- i want to ask you a strategic question then go to sam. has he calculated he is too left? he's not the right guy to do gun safety? biden is a better guy because he's a regular guy, a street guy, not a big liberal in his image. why did he put biden out front? >> i think he put biden out front in terms of coming up with a p...