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Old style liberal in this view, that the state can do good racial determination, that there is such a thing as good race balancing by the state on a presumably by universities as well and thomas has long taken the view there is no such thing as good racial discrimination by the state, so it's fascinating that right is he's leaving, that issue is sort of coming right back to the front. if so i think the tone will likely be more stridently progressive, whoever biden nominates, the end result, i don't think the court is going to change much in terms of how it rules. >> laura: carrie, thinking bac...

Of the view. he's like anchch old style libel in this view that the state can do good at racial discrimination,oo that there is such a thing as know good race balancing by the staten and presumably universities as well. and thomas has a long taken the view that there is no such thing as good racial discrimination by the state. so it's fascinating that , you know right as he's leaving thatt issue is sort of coming right back to the front. so so i think the tone will likely be more stridently progressive whoever biden nominates. the end resultt er i don't think the court is going to change i muc...

Are. and "b," litigate donald trump. donald trump is going to make that easy by talk ago lot and doing a lot of things, the media won't be able to not cover. then you're going to have to have a successful litigation. >> litigation on policy. that's the key thing. he's the guy that tried to take health care away. that's actually -- both as a strategy, but also for the country, we should be debating those things. you said this, brian, a nominee best situated to be able to ignore trump is one who commands a media ecosystem apart. >> there's two choices democratic primary voters can pick from in a...

Personality. it's a personality contest. that is what presidential races are. and "b," litigate donald trump. donald trump is going to make that easy by talk ago lot and doing a lot of things, the media won't be able to not cover. then you're going to have to have a successful litigation. >> litigation on policy. that's the key thing. he's the guy that tried to take health care away. that's actually -- both as a strategy, but also for the country, we should be debating those things. you said this, brian, a nominee best situated to be able to ignore trump is one who commands a media ecosystem a...

That actually is what the election is going to be about. so whoever the dome cattic nominee is going to have to try to make themselves a personality. it's a personality contest. that is what presidential races are. and "b," litigate donald trump. donald trump is going to make that easy by talk ago lot and doing a lot of things, the media won't be able to not cover. then you're going to have to have a successful litigation. >> litigation on policy. that's the key thing. he's the guy that tried to take health care away. that's actually -- both as a strategy, but also for the country, we should b...