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The latest Political Developments of the day and interviews with top newsmakers are featured. Order is, territory now. And i wonder if theyve had a chance to explain to the president what you reported last week, that under this beefed up postenron witness tampering law, he may have more exposure than he understands. They seem to be leaning on a First Amendment defense, which is not going to hold up if your reporting holds up hes being scrutinized for the way these fit together. What Rudy Giuliani said today is this is ridiculous, the clip you played. The Idea Obstruction by tweet. He said it w...

That is still up in the air. amid donald trump's talk of -- hinting around of potential pardon for paul manafort, this trial does not seem to be going well for mr. manafort today. >> ben, one of the backdrops of all this is the meticulousness of robert mueller's prosecutors. i remember when the indictments were unsealed, all of the legal analysis was these were paper cases. on paper they looked air tight. what do you make of sort of -- that was a bipartisan analysis of the way mueller's prosecutors, his investigators had gone about their investigation. it was actually echoed by democrats and r...

Brought, how many guilty pleas they secured. but looking at that indictment, if you had any doubt, it was dispelled. the doubt, any doubt that if there was collusion, mueller is going to find it. if he found those, that key stroke evidence, donald trump or people around donald trump colluded with the russians which i think a lot of people you said people who were doubters for a long time are saying, hey, maybe this happened, mueller has got it. and that moment was to me just like, okay, we are -- if there's people to go down, they are going down. >> you're bursting. >> at the beginning of this...

>> we missed you. >> many people have commented about the importance of the indictments that were issued against the russians the other day. i don't think even now as big as what happened in helsinki was, as big as the things that happened since then, i don't think people appreciate -- i'm going to your metaphor here, just the consequence of what that meant and really -- i sat there on vacation agog at the detail, the detective work involved and the willingness of what mueller was doing there. not just with respect -- partly with respect to trump's -- the timing of it, trump in helsinki, but a...

Mueller, that when he wants to pull back the curtain, he's got the goods. i'm thinking of the indictment about the key stroke evidence, about what you're both saying that here are five more people we never heard of. i had never heard of george papadopoulos before i learned he pled guilty and before we learned how instrumental he was at starting that counterintelligence investigation with his enter actions. can you both speak to the broader point that frank is making about bob mueller's investigation in all that we don't know and all the president doesn't know, starting with you, harry. >> sure...