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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:16:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:16:00

Versus the other group, they're a young group, trying to get their name out there, trying to let people know, look, we're aggressive, very intimidating, they're more likely to be very disrespectful, more likely to be anti-authority, more likely to be disruptive in the living units. >> nothing can prepare you for going into an orejone unit. you realize these are a bunch of young men with a lot of energy a lot of anger, feel tremendously caged in, and they start banging and yelling and screaming. >> a show of force and dominance, the orejones wanted everyone to know that they were the dominant g...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:24:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:24:00

Stuff, and pick on us, so we formed a group. when they take our stuff, we go, get our group together, we go fight them and get our stuff back. >> pierre chatman was the first heartless felon who agreed to talk to me. >> the system call it a gang. it ain't no gang, though. it's a family for real. it's just people sticking up for each other, that's all. >> you can see part of what the draw was. here are kids in juvenile jails, probably without family support, probably without resources, and they're being offered this family-like situation, where you're going to be protected, part of something bi...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:44:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:44:00

That's not how any of this works. [ male announcer ] 15 minutes for a quote isn't how it works anymore. with esurance, 7 1/2 minutes could save you on car insurance. welcome to the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. born in cleveland's juvenile detention centers, the heartless felons had grown to be a force within the cuyahoga county correction center. >> it was a little reminiscent of oliver twist. it was a group of kids, basically, that had formed this family-like pact and they would run amok doing their various crimes within the facility. and we'd all come back and...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:23:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:23:00

In 210, san antonio. >> represent 210. >> our gang coverage in san antonio revolved around a rivalry, there was a different story inside cleveland's cuyahoga county correction center. most of the problems there swirled around one dominant gang. >> oh, that's raw. >> the heartless felons. but its members referred to it by another name, the family. because they say that's what they really are. >> heartless felon is like a family for real. it started for me in juvenile, people from other cities, they here, columbus, cincinnati, they go down there, take our stuff, and pick on us, we formed a group...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:15:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140705:00:15:00

>> even though the two feuding gangs were cut from the same cloth, today, they're very different. >> the mexican mafia and the orejones have a different personality. in fact, you can spot them just by talking to them. >> mexican mafia members tend to be older, run their gang with a military-like hierarchy and strict accordance to their constitution and rules. >> they did not want any media attention. the mexican mafia would not talk to us at all. >> they keep a low profile in jail and prison, directing criminal enterprises on the streets. >> they know how to talk to correctional staff and offi...