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Student seeing what another disturbed student did and following in that path. the question becomes at a certain point, particularly as i point out where a lot of the things, assault weapons, red flags wouldn't have worked in this case, do we need to harden our schools the way we do our airports with metal detectors and limited access to get in and out of the school? >> absolutely. i mean, i think we should make it more difficult, figure out a way to prevent people coming in the door with a firearm. at the same time, make sure that that irresponsible person can't get the gun in the first place....

Student seeing what another disturbed student did and following in that path. the question becomes at a certain point, particularly as i point out where a lot of the things, assault weapons, red flags wouldn't have worked in this case, do we need to harden our schools the way we do our airports with metal detectors and limited access to get in and out of the school? >> absolutely. i mean, i think we should make it more difficult, figure out a way to prevent people coming in the door with a firearm. at the same time, make sure that that irresponsible person can't get the gun in the first place....

I go hunting as well. all my firearms are locked in a safe. if i had -- i don't even have a kid in the house anymore. if i did, i would even probably even double down on that. there are things that work. when we allow irresponsible people to get their hands on firearms and criminals -- i mean, your last guest is about to take over as the president of an organization that is against background checks for gun sales. i mean, the most common sense thing that we can do to protect society, they are so strongly against and then they advocate for an alternative reality that the problem is the school a...