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Brownout is as they call it. and they have been upset with the cuts that we've had previously. we had seven cuts companies in 2009. we lost five engines and two ladders. it has greatly affected the public safety and our response times and these will only increase those response times and they will also affect the public safety. >> what does michael nutter, the mayor of philadelphia, why is he doing this? and is he behind this? >> i don't think there's much planning into this. he seems to be a knee jerk reaction mayor. there is no planning done. there was no study or research done. we need an i...