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Is that something you have experienced? how concerned are you about the effects of that and the role these big tech giants have in it? it is horrible. people call me all kind of things. sometimes i wonder if they think we don't have feelings all this stuff doesn't matter. every now and then you read it. i don't even read the good parts, which is sad because that one person can say something good. you shouldn't be getting that kind of hate like that. everyone is allowed that opinion, but they can keep it to themselves, they don't have to write it there. people should stand up a bit more. we wor...

Mrs. obama and mr. obama and president obama into it. it just -- i don't understand it. it doesn't make sense to me. >> they literally are walking into a house saying there is a dragon in this house. we have to get the dragon out of the house. and once they walk in they start looking at each other and being like, you know what? i don't like how you dress. >> i don't like the drapes. can we change the drapes? >> i'm not saying a lot of this stuff doesn't matter. it all matters. but you got to pick your spots and figure out when you use the ammunition that you have because if they think that mr....

Looking at each other and being like, you know what? i don't like how you dress. >> i don't like the drapes. can we change the drapes? >> i'm not saying a lot of this stuff doesn't matter. it all matters. but you got to pick your spots and figure out when you use the ammunition that you have because if they think that mr. trump isn't sitting somewhere saying i'm so happy this is coming out now and they're using the same stuff they'll use on me on each other, they're kidding themselves. so at what price will your own ambition be put against your party's ambition. >> that interview -- so you kno...

Handle that politically? >> you wait until the mueller report comes out. i've lived in situations where you're waiting on action from the department of justice. you can live in suspended animation, you can convince yourself that everything is fine, and this stuff doesn't matter, and it's all a blur. i don't disagree with what adam said, but ultimately, there's going to be an earned to this process, and a report of this detail. and i think that's going to be a different day, that's when the american public will tune back in, and the republicans will have to decide which side of history they com...

Trump, it is not a real issue, tas game he uses to entice his base. no matter what happens in court, whether he wins or loses, head, he wins, tails we lose, doesn't matter. he will find a way to make that issue work for him and his base and they will buy into whatever answer, whatever response he has because that's the kind of control he has over the people that support him and the value they get from him being president. >> what would you advise a presidential candidate on the democratic side of the aisle to handle immigration, don't bother talking to him and his base, talk to independents th...