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House. i still critically want to know what the plan was for peter strozk and lisa page to keep the president out of the white house. was at it wider plan? they mentioned the boss andrew mccabe, the former f.b.i. director. who at the agency knew about the plan? was it to lovers tryin to out-text each other and impression've other? >> what if that was it? >> harris: i don't know. i'm asking the question. was it any of these things? i think we need to know that. every political party since there is socialism in the room, too, with last night's win among the democratic party. with every -- we sho...

Room right now. that has seemed to play out. but it sounds to me like the lawyers have taken over. it's one thing to go on twitter and say, yeah, i'll give them whatever they need. i'm happy to talk to the committee. it's another thing entirely to have it kind of sink in, to realize if donald trump, jr. and paul manafort testified in a public hearing, their words would be parsed. they would have -- the margin of error would be so slim that they could put themselves in real jeopardy legally and otherwise. >> there is a flip side here, though, that i think is important to point out which is the ...