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What he does is by sowing this doubt with voters it has ramifications on capitol hill. if you talk to republican politicians they're in two camps. the one camp who are the hardened true trumpers like devin nunes working hard and a bunch of others who know what he's doing is wrong and that there are long-term ramifications but won't say anything because they're scared of trump voters. trump knows that. he know is by ginning up doubts it has a way of locking people in on the hill who know better and who could stand up to him and keep things like this can new inspector general investigation from ...

New inspector general investigation from happening. it keeps them from doing so. >> there's the throw anything against the wall approach that giuliani's been taking. giuliani as far as we know is not taking a paycheck for this. he's saying all sorts of stuff telling what robert mueller told him which who knows if it's true. he recently told buzzfeed he hasn't talked to the president in two weeks and says this today that he's worried about the trump -- the truth is relative. which is a remarkable thing for a former u.s. attorney to say. >> what is rudy giuliani's actual job? is he the ez's lawy...