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Importance people who want to burn it all down and start afresh. britain becomes like singapore. you have a low tax economy, you can treat ruthlessly against your nearest neighbors and do well out of it. just imagine this is a state in the united states. say arkansas suddenly decides to su seed. they agree on that but you have no agreement on health or aviation standards and you find yourself in arkansas and trucks have to stop at the border before bringing food in because there is no agreement.

Areas of the country. it's like when i say bulkization, look at yugoslavia, broke up over religion, language, culture and history into seven countries. you have serbia, croatia -- that's what i see happening to the united states. look at the scots want to get o similar in many ways to the english. it's happening all over the world. >> do you see certain states saying we want to be independent and declaring their independence? >> no, it's more internal. look at northern california wants to su seed from northern california. maryland wants to secede. they say we don't want a part of that. we can'...

Areas of the country. it's like when i say bulkization, look at yugoslavia, broke up over religion, language, culture and history into seven countries. you have serbia, croatia -- that's what i see happening to the united states. look at britain. the scots want to get out and similar in many ways to the english. it's happening all over the world. >> do you see certain states saying we want to be independent and declaring their independence? >> no, it's more internal. look at northern california wants to su seed from northern california. maryland wants to secede. they say we don't want a part o...

Why did jefferson -- >> so they could keep slaves. >> jefferson wanted to keep slaves, washington wanted to keep slaves, five of your first -- >> 600,000 americans were dead because you guys wanted to keep slaves. >> that is complete nonsense, chris, your founding fathers had slaves? >> i know. that was wrong. >> does that mean they wanted to be free of non-slave england. >> immediately the south began to su seed over what issue? >> lincoln was elected and the republican party was in power, lincoln didn't get a vote in the south. they wanted out of -- >> what was the issue? voting rights? post...

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