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That donald trump did not know until "the wall street journal" reported it that kim jong-un's half brother might have been a cia informer? >> well, lawrence, i guess i should stipulate by saying we're all assuming in this conversation that "the wall street journal" and other reporting about this is accurate. let's just assume that for the sake of argument. i think it is very possible if you listen to the way donald trump responded to that question this morning that he was taken by surprise. and it shouldn't come as a surprise to us if donald trump was not briefed on this. if you are the cia di...

Cia informer? >> well, lawrence, i guess i should stipulate by saying we're all assuming in this conversation that "the wall street journal" and other reporting about this is accurate. let's just assume that for the sake of argument. i think it is very possible if you listen to the way donald trump responded to that question this morning that he was taken by surprise. and it shouldn't come as a surprise to us if donald trump was not briefed on this. if you are the cia director, if you're the director of national intelligence and your primary customer, the president of the united states, is som...