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Joining us now from princeton university, and secretary of state of public affairs in the obama administration. both are msnbc contributors. and professor eddie s. glaude jr., i want to talk to people about this who are not lawyers, because this is not about the law now. this document filed today has nothing to do with american jurisprudence in american law. this has to do, i believe, with creating as much chaos in the congressional subpoena process. and in the federal courts and demonstrating the federal courts inability to actually enforce the subpoenas because of their own judicial self imp...

Attorney general is independent in the decisions that he makes. and i think that part of the reason that they did the contempt vote on the bannon subpoena specifically was the feeling that this was the more clear-cut sand clearly authorizd subpoena process. here's someone who's trying to take refugee in an executive privilege, despite not being anywhere near the administration for nearly a year at the time this occurred, so here is the conclusion this is the most clear-cut broapproach that we t, but they have to wait and see. >> it's going to be fascinating to watch i want play out. the other ...

That doesn't mean it's enforceable. what's going to happen today, what's happening now, is that biden has said i'm going to release these documents. and then under the law he has 30 days, trump has 30 days to complain. and if he doesn't do anything, the documents will be released. what's likely to happen is, on that day 29 and a half, he's going to file a lawsuit and come up the process. because, trump's whole game, it doesn't matter if it's legally correct. it only matters to him that he can slow the process down, as low of the process. because, after all, that's really worked for him. it wor...

Slow walk the process. after all, that's really worked for him. and it worked for him in impeachment, by stalling and not getting witnesses. it's worked for him with his taxes. and that's what bannon is counting on, that it will work for him, with the subpoena process. no, he's not going to win the argument. but yes, he's going to try to make it to slow the process down. >> eugene, was it regarded as pro forma or a big deal that biden decided the way he did on this tranche of documents? >> i think it was unsurprising. we expect as things move on that the biden administration is not likely to e...

He's scared of donald trump and the power he has and the political power he still retains. let me remind the viewers, brian, when the commission was initially proposed, the viis said we said we don't about a partisan committee. the democrats said you can have all the things you ask for, and the republicans said, no thank you. now they are getting a committee that will have subpoena power over which they have no say, and so they will regret it, and they will have liz cheney on there, and putting the law and her country first, and also will draw the line at real partisan behavior that could go o...