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He thought to himself, i am going to the host of "the tonight show." i can't be that guy. that guy is too narrow. so he made a conscious decision to, you know, wear down those edges at least, if not eliminate them. >> actually, "time" magazine says the biggest problem facing americans is litter. you know, they're so concerned about litter, why don't they get rid of those stupid little subscription cards that keep falling out of the magazine? >> dave thought he was selling out to get "the tonight show" away from him, basically. so naturally he thought, i don't respect jay for doing that. >> dav...

Get a word in edgewise. >> when jay was first asked to guest host the show, i remember he was sitting in his hot tub, and jay says to me, you know, i think maybe i can take over the show after johnny leaves. maybe i can do it. and the more he did it, the better he got. so jay leno took over as permanent guest host. and i thought he was a natural. >> kind a snappy dresser now. this is -- looks like fashions by davy crockett apparently here. kind of a hip snake kind of thing. >> jay broke out on the letterman show as the guy who was sort of the rebel comic. he thought to himself if i'm going to ...

Letterman show as the guy who is sort of the rebel comic. he thought i am going to be the host of the tonight show, i can't be that guy. that guy's too narrow. so he made a conscious decision to, you know, wear down those edges at least, if not eliminate them. >> actually, time magazine says the biggest problem facing americans is litter. you know, if they are so concerned about litter, why don't they get rid of those stupid, little subscription cards that keep falling out of the magazine? >> they thought he was selling out to get the tonight show away from him, basically. so, naturally, he th...