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Because i think it is so dangerous the path we are on and we need to correct. >> what do you say to people who say the trump administration is presiding over record low unemployment numbers. growth seems strong. what are you complaining about? >> at least two things. one is i think obama and the previous administration did a lot of good things. i think there is a tail wind from that. but i also think that people are underfactoring the amount of stimulus and just debt that's going into propping this up. so they are using subsidy\s to block the impacts of tariffs and other kind of things. i thin...

Price and every program national and regional and you can see what their subsidy s that is a simple site. they went the other way and broke best practices and buried the information. >> that is your startling allegation today. but why, why do you believe they did that? >> sticker shock. it was supposed to be patient protection and affordable care act. instead it is throwing millions of people off of the health care that they had and may have different features that are mandated by law but don't have what people want at a price they want them. >> but you also believe congress, man, that by alle...

Most vulnerable to a group that was relatively in power. so by putting food stamps and supplemental nutrition in the farm bill, you create a circumstance where you have to make that safety net available because it is linked up with farmers and all the farm subsidy s that have a huge interest. here is where you make it up, that even in the poorest circumstances that the people will not be forgotten. delink those things in a way it is extremely dangerous. >> this farm bill was terrible. because the $20 billion in cuts to snap was completely unacceptable. the expanding the crop -- >> the 26 peopl...