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a criticism that, you know, the obama administration maybe didn't do enough to settle and explain and talk about their stimulus efforts and want to make sure that people around the country really know what's in the bill, know what's coming and the kind of impact it's having. >> there's a conversation that we'll watch how it plays outside of washington. do the additional benefits help people. they showed up at their briefing wearing masks and trying to make the case, the republican argument that the biden administration is not pushing aggressively enough there. you see follow the s...

American is this letter comes at the end of an illegitimate, sham, partisan process." that's an indication to me, chris, that the white house thinks that they're winning on the process argument, right? there have always been two tracks on this, the substance and the process. the white house has worked at pains to really try to question the process of all this. and when you look at the polling numbers, the fact that it hasn't moved all that much -- in some states, polls like in wisconsin, where the white house clearly thinks it's cutting in their favor. the question then becomes does the white ...

Republicans enough. but it will to a certain degree, i think, put the process arguments on the back burner and move the substance argument. what did the president do and was that okay or not to the front burner. >> bill: ultimately this gentleman will be significant. jerry nadler the democrat from new york, chair of the judiciary committee. just drop in on his message for the moment. >> i support this resolution not because i want the allegations to be true, they saden me deeply, but because if we're true the constitution demands we take action. i support the resolution because it lays the gro...

You want a substance argument? bring it on, adam schiff because we know that ukraine didn't even ask about a hold on aid until august9th, that was released shortly thereafter. you know what, the united states of america had to get off ukraine in order to release the hold on aid? nothing! >> laura: the opinions of people listening in on the conversation -- at the president knew were listening, those opinions of a transcript we already have are supposed to run into -- up to impeachment of the president of united states? is that the low bar we are setting, congressman? >> there is no substance he...

You're losing the process argument. you want a substance argument? bring it on, adam schiff, because we know the ukraine didn't even ask about a hold on eight until august 29th, that was released shortly thereafter. you know what, the united states of america had to get off ukraine in order to release the hold on it? nothing! >> laura: the opinions of people listening in on the conversation -- at the president knew were listening, those opinions of a transcript we already have are supposed to run into -- up to impeachment of the president of united states? is that the low bar we are setting, c...