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Votes on that. then presumably so long as there are no more particular -- tactics by republicans. the debate about the debate to set up the six hours of substance debate. an hour of debate equally divided. tom cole and mcgovern. we were there almost all day in the rules committee hearing testimony. 8:35 last night they came back into session and crafted the rule. the reason you have a rule in the house of representatives is it's a big body. right now there are 431 members. you can't have free wheeling debate. most members will only get a minute to speak or less. maybe even 30 seconds, 45 secon...

With them because a republicans say this is why they came in, to do things in the majority of the house, to do things that are different, do things that are bold. of course democrats say this is the absolute wrong way to go and it was very interesting today, john. not one democrat voted for this budget. not one. only four defected. it shows you for the most part republicans are willing to have this fight even though it could mean taking some harpoons politically. >> to come back to those harpoons in a minute because we know what the democrats will do with the next campaign. dan lothian, you ca...

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