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I don't think paul ryan looked very good at the end of the day. he believed that stimulus plan was going to create jobs. that's exactly what it did. >> senator, this is ed. i don't know if pressure is the right word or not, but joe biden went in to this debate tonight. he had to accomplish something that maybe wasn't done in last week's debate. you being a veteran of the senate, i know you've known joe for a long time. was there any doubt in your mind that he was going to come out and clear the plate tonight for the middle class? >> no, there wasn't. i didn't want to trump it ahead of time and...

I knew when he gave him this assignment and said, joe, you're going to carry this flag into battle, he couldn't wait to get prepared for it. he did great. what's interesting, the republicans around here in the so-called spin room, what are they criticizing? oh, he laughed too much. he smiled too much. they want to go after style points because they lost on all the substance points. those of us who know joe biden, this guy wears his heart on his sleeve. he's a guy with big laughs, big tears. that's who he is. >> senator dick durbin, we thank you for your time tonight. we appreciate it. >> good ...