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Evidence in any case i have ever covered in 30 years of journalism. he was as guilty as the day is long and everybody who followed this case and followed the facts night. that means he took a knife, took a knife and he almost cut his wife's neck off. then he bludgeoned to death her friend ron goldman. that he didn't get convicted of it is one thing. i wonder sometimes, jim, and you talked about this before. if he recreated the events of that time in his head for public display. >> well, yeah, he probably believed he had nothing to do with it. he's delusional if that's the case. he also said he...

You state d you would? >> well, you know, it's -- i think i made it clear back then i've never had an alcohol problem. and if i took that alcohol course, it would have been more, you know, for my children in case they ended up having a problem. well, my kids don't have a problem. i don't think anybody's ever accused me of having an alcohol problem or any kind of substance problem. of course on that day i had drinks on that day, but it was a wedding celebration. but i've never had a substance problem at all. so i didn't. >> okay. well, you told us in our last hearing that you were going to atte...

>> so the homeland security secretary has no problem with that but as a country we need to be talking about that. >> the fbi may have another view. we also have the ongoing issues relating to general flynn, paul manafort and that bucket, but also, there is the substance. i think evan would understand that when you are trimming almost $1 trillion for medicare, 23 million people potentially being cut out of healthcare when food stamps are going to be eviscerated, when social security. >> so were talking about us substance problem. >> you are talking about some of the things found in the cbo scor...

>> so the homeland security secretary has no problem with that but as a country we need to be talking about that. >> the fbi may have another view. we also have the ongoing issues relating to general flynn, paul manafort and that bucket, but also, there is the substance. i think evan would understand that when you are trimming almost $1 trillion for medicare, 23 million people potentially being cut out of healthcare when food stamps are going to be eviscerated, when social security. >> so were talking about us substance problem. >> you are talking about some of the things found in the cbo scor...

>> so the homeland security secretary has no problem with that but as a country we need to be talking about that. >> the fbi may have another view. we also have the ongoing issues relating to general flynn, paul manafort and that bucket, but also, there is the substance. i think evan would understand that when you are trimming almost $1 trillion for medicare, 23 million people potentially being cut out of healthcare when food stamps are going to be eviscerated, when social security. >> so were talking about us substance problem. >> you are talking about some of the things found in the cbo scor...