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They could have taken but they rushed it because it's political instead of something critical to the heath of the republic. i think the democrats would have ben bitted themselves by waiting and not asking mitch mcconnell to do it for them. >> their argument, there was urgency, they had to do it now, impeach now, because these things keep happening that they say are interfering in the 2020 presidential election. what are your thoughts on that, charley? >> well, look, the white house has clearly been stonewalling here. but i do think the house did rush. having said that, the senate should bring ...

Trump's election i felt like a stinging rebuke of all we believe inned, the more i thought about it, the worse i felt. you had early dealings with michael flynn who was going to be your successor and national security -- >> he was my successor for 24 days. >> and you predicted -- well, in the book you say you predicted this guy ain't going to last. what did you see that seemed fragile? >> interestingly not the man we all saw at the republican convention shouting lock her up but rather quite subdued, quite humbled it seemed by the weight of the job as well he should have been. but substantively...

We heard it clearly. the president calling mcconnell a smart guy, a fair guy, saying the ball is in his court and not reserving the right the say but i want to have my say as well. we know there are back channels discussions happening between both offices because mitch mcconnell himself has said that's the case, but i think this was the president looking to get out there and make sure his point of view is well represented, not just on twitter, but on camera as well. what he said substantively was not that new. we had seen a lot of this in tweet form before. so this is the spoken word version o...

The plas tisty of this process, about what we understand about impeachment, about how we're all still reckoning with and trying to understand what's happening here. >> that's a good word. it is remarkable how sparse the constitution is when it talks about impeachment. the chief justice has to preside, but that's it. and the debate between noah and lawrence isn't settled by the constitution. it's not settled by precedent because it's never happened before. if someone were to sue the house to require them to turn over the articles, there would be no precedent about that. the question of what the...

Mitch mcconnell provides a guarantee of a fair trial. >> our founders, when they wrote the constitution, they suspected that there could be a rogue president. i don't think they suspected that we could have a rogue president and a rogue leader in the senate at the same time. >> a rogue senate leader. pelosi arguing there there's a kind of collusion to prevent the fair trial, and she'll hold back the articles. i'll tell you something. substantively, this may not work all that well because the fact is mitch mcconnell might be more comfortable with a delay than the democrats who do have campaigns...