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Someone did come out shoot a republican and said rhetoric had nothing to do with it so which is it? >> it's that substitution game i like to play have similar things are treated depending on who makes the accusation. i think that's a signal. >> jesse: i want to get to something in your book and it's a great book. you came across an e-mail from palmeri who was hillary clinton's communications director during the campaign. and jen sakae who is the obama state department spokesperson. it says this, think we can get the interview with kerry by cbs done so he is not asked about e-mail? the e-mail i...

Someone did come out shoot a republican and said rhetoric had nothing to do with it so which is it? >> it's that substitution game i like to play have similar things are treated depending on who makes the accusation. i think that's a signal. >> jesse: i want to get to something in your book and it's a great book. you came across an e-mail from palmeri who was hillary clinton's communications director during the campaign. and jen sakae who is the obama state department spokesperson. it says this, think we can get the interview with kerry by cbs done so he is not asked about e-mail? the e-mail i...

Whether i can keep my job and my wife is working two part-time jobs? it's not that candidates don't talk about that but doesn't get oxygen that we're talking about. >> there's a core group of people that watches that and thinks media is treating him unfairly playing substitution game. people on this panel probably don't agree. when trump is said about him that he didn't read the bible because he's not in it, that's a big insult. nobody went to jindal and said are you going to apologize for that because they feel trump deserve it is but don't feel the other candidates deserve it when they get h...

It but it doesn't get --. >> i am telling you there are a core group of people that think the media is treating him unfairly and playing the substitution game and some people do not agree, but when trump is upset about him that he did not read the bile because he is not in it, that is a big senate and no one said, are you going to apologize pore that because they feel trump deserves it but they don't necessarily fell the other canidates deserve it. >> you are right when you talk about it is not just the washington culture but the media culture, when you criticize him you say it is the media el...