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Syria and iraq and now may be returning to europe or even the united states? >> well, possibly an influx but also the so-called homegrown. people who are radicalized where they live, radicalized online. we're shifting very much into a cyber movement here. and think of it this way. donald trump campaigned that he would get rid of isis by, paraphrasing the president, bombing the heck out of them. well, an f-16 doesn't do much good when you have terrorists walk into an airport with suitcase bombs in europe. an f-16 does you absolutely no good. so the u.s., the world, has to prepare for that. it's...

It's an incredibly busy day, has to do with the idea of aqap and other groups pairing together, sharing knowledge and maybe even sharing resources but certainly sharing the ability or the knowledge that they have when it comes to trying to build weapons that could slip through u.s. security, international security. what is your read on this threat, how specific it is and what our concern should be? >> well, keep in mind, brianna, that the technology develop since the invasion of 2003 cell phone detonators and the rest of it, and you're going to see that stuff appear in iraq again. you're going...

Happening. but most say it's not a crisis. but a chinese, the russians, we talk to them, we deter, we have know would be self-destructive. >> bill: here is why it is different. the chinese and russians are secular society. atheist i can. based on domination. these people are fanatical islamists. they want to kill you if you are jewish just because you are jewish. not because it has anything to do with we did owe politics. ifgeo politics. if you are jewish, you are dead. you say it's not that big of crisis if they start to develop nuclear technology where they can weaponize make smaller weapons...

Happening. but most say it's not a crisis. but a chinese, the russians, we talk to them, we deter, we have know would be self-destructive. >> bill: here is why it is different. the chinese and russians are secular society. atheist i can. based on domination. these people are fanatical islamists. they want to kill you if you are jewish just because you are jewish. not because it has anything to do with we did owe politics. ifgeo politics. if you are jewish, you are dead. you say it's not that big of crisis if they start to develop nuclear technology where they can weaponize make smaller weapons...

Happening. but most say it's not a crisis. but a chinese, the russians, we talk to them, we deter, we have know would be self-destructive. >> bill: here is why it is different. the chinese and russians are secular society. atheist i can. based on domination. these people are fanatical islamists. they want to kill you if you are jewish just because you are jewish. not because it has anything to do with we did owe politics. ifgeo politics. if you are jewish, you are dead. you say it's not that big of crisis if they start to develop nuclear technology where they can weaponize make smaller weapons...