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Where north korea goes, where china goes. the summit is an event, probably a one-day affair. the real question is what is it we try to accomplish if and when we meet with noirk noirth korea. if we try to be too ambitious, it will fail if we meet in singapore on june 12, and the president and his north korean counterpart agree say to two working groups, one would try to get some of a mini package. we do, you know maybe lock in the north korean freeze on testing and exchange, they get some small things from us, if there's a modest agenda and a big long-term agenda. which denuclearization is part...

Wants to solve this. even to, to institutionalize a dialogue that you're just describing, and maybe to get some stabilizing confidence-building meshes now, set up however many tracks of ambitious diplomacy down the road. it would be a big deal. >> it would be best diplomatically and it would also be best politically. it would make donald trump look more nixonian. and i say that in a positive sense. where nixon would have several summits with the russians. it would be an ongoing process. where you would say, we're going to have great meetings and a next summit and then we're going to meet again...

Kim jong un -- is waiting for the magic word. >> that's 11 yoers of chemistry. >> so is it wrong to say the magic word? >> you're like magic and he's worthy. >> a u.s. dell grags is in talks with north korean officials in the korean border town of panmunjeom for ongoing preparations ahead of the president's canceled yet possibly still on summit with kim. a separate team is also in singapore per the white house. this comes after last thursday's trump sent kim a letter canceling the summit due to recent quote tremendous anger and open hostility but the next day on friday trump tweeted quote we'r...

You need to set this in motion. if you want to get ambitious early on. then you have to delay the summit. if you want the summit to be a big deal, then you've got to delay it. >> the run-up has been so hasty and tenuous, you wonder what you could want out of this that would last. >> i agree with richard, less is more here. get the two leaders together. it will be hard for donald trump because he is a day trader, he wants the huge headlines, but what you really want here is less is more. get the leaders together. get them to see each other face to face, start figuring out a way to have south ko...

To say. try and follow. >> i just want to mention we're doing very well in terms of the summit with north korea. looks like it's -- going along very well. i think there's a lot of goodwill. a lot of people are working on it. it's moving along very nicely. so we're looking at june 12th in singapore, that hasn't changed. and it's moving along pretty well. we'll see what happens. >> richard haass, this appears to be the "we'll see what happens" doctrine, in terms of north korea. they're going forward as if the meeting is happening. they've got all the preparations that you would normally have for...