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How many cars were they making each year? >> no idea. it is a big bump. i don't know what they've been doing. it was a big bump and the sec said wait a minute, doesn't seem accurate. that 20 million fine he paid before is like pocket change for elon musk. >> trace: thank you so much. breaking news, the house is debating a measure to overturn president trump's national emergency declaration on the southern border. we are expecting a vote on that in a couple of hours. and of course after our reporting here, we'll have a fox news update on facebook watch. it's a minute-long newscast online. uniqu...

Process just as important, gordon? don't you have to put one foot in front of the other to get across the street? we have to at least start to go down this path, correct? >> well no, not correct. the reason is we've tried this before. for instance the six-party talks that started in august of 2003. dragged on for more than half a decade. the step-by-step process. it really doesn't work. you think it should work but it doesn't. what we really have to do is just vigorously apply those sanctions so that north korea realize they have no choice. they either keep their weapons or kim jong-un but not...