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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131028 18:10:00

fact that, you know, lots of people in europe, especially leaders, are not cutting the u.s. as much slack as they might have done in the past. partly, they re saying, because the u.s. under the obama administration, is backing off a lot of the burden sharing, a lot of the heavy lifting that traditionally the u.s. has done in support of its allies over the past. because of the fallout, bought of the anger amongst the world leaders, julian, do you think someone s head should roll over this? well, we re going to see what the administration does. i think two things to remember. president obama himself raised a lot of the expectations about the differences with how he would conduct national security operations and those resonated both here and around the world. so it might be that in the end, he tries to blame someone. he himself now by with this report coming out that he ordered this to stop, it s something of an admission this shouldn t be business as usual. and the second thing is,

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131028 18:08:00

president would be different. they thought president obama would do some different in national security than president bush. that s colored their opinion. as former secretary of state madeleine albright has said, everybody does it, i was even bugged by the french when i was u.s. ambassador to the u.n. julian, should he have known if the nsa was tapping a personal cell phone of a world leader? certainly, the president doesn t know everything going on with the nsa, and we shouldn t expect that. but when you re talking about the surveillance of world leaders and an issue that s been controversial for a while now, you would expect that there s some knowledge, eerlth by the president or people surrounding him. he hasn t said much about the second part of that, but i do think they re surprised that this was off the radar in the inner circles of the white house. christiane, you point out spying, one of the world s oldest profeshzs. do you think these world leaders knowing what they know

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