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We do not believe there was anything there asked about the investigation and this call gets put on the super code word server like ukraine, a thing that doesn't happen except it does seem to happen with president bush. why do you think they would put a call like that there? have you -- with you thinking about this legally and the national security background, why were the calls put there? >> from the whistle-blower complaint so far, it appears they were doing that because they knew people in the white house knew that this would be really bad if it got out and so they were trying to segregate i...

Steve: yeah, but the whistleblower. >> so secretive and such cover-up here is the documents. this is nuts. this is nonsense. steve: the whistleblower said they put it in the super code word protected computers that they hardly ever put things in. >> well, the whistleblower or what -- i don't even like calling this individual a whistleblower, this individual that decided to spy on the president's conversation based on here say information that's a better way of saying it. but, whatever you want to do on that front, this individual had no first hand knowledge of anything. nothing. had no idea. s...