Political scientists. i really appreciate that. >> that's my game. >> yes, exactly, we are an oligarchy. it doesn't mean we're not also a democracy. the two might be compatible uncomfortably, but, yes, i want to correct one of your definitions of oligarchy. you just said, rule by the few. it's rule by the wealthy few, the rich few. >> it's not just like is people whose last name starts with "z." which might be a superior system, actually. those might be enlightened individuals. but we now have the research to back up with occupiers were saying a few years ago, right? that the political system ...