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Ground belongs to those who would support daca. but neither party would actually be helped politically by the scenes of those people being deported. and we can anticipate that happening in march and april. so couldn't there be some kind of agreement that would either kick the daca can for a year and say, look, let's make this an issue for the election in 2018. but assure those 800,000 people they won't be deported in march and april. i mean that's a possible deal that would allow both sides to save face. but i'm not hearing anything, and what concerns me now is that this is going to turn into ...

The democrats have said the only thing they'll accept is something on daca for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. so if the president were to pull everybody in, clearly state his position, give the republicans time to make sure whatever his position is can pass in both chambers, that would be a big win. so that would sort of validate the tactics tonight. they've kept him off television tonight. the congress is going to shut down the government. he steps in tomorrow morning, say, and pulls everybody together. they forge a deal that gives everybody what they want, including something on immigration that he coul...

When they talk about the government shutdown they'll be talking about the president. is he willing to accept the blame? >> i don't think the president should have the blame in this circumstance. let's look at what's actually being negotiated. democrats have a bill in front of them that extends children's health insurance, that delays taxes that has bipartisan support. these are measures that they would support as standal loans. only thing they are trying to do is add immigration to this debate and have amnesty for a class of illegal immigrants in daca passed and added to this bill. and if you ...

Trump. the thing would pass with republicans and democrats alike on the senate floor. it would pass with a majority of the members of the house of representatives, but they need the all-clear sign from donald trump. previously he had said the terms that he would accept, he spelled them out. that's what durbin and graham negotiated to try to satisfy. they did, and then donald trump moved the goal post. so democrats and republicans on the hill need to hear what his new metrics are for what kind of daca deal he will accept. is he going to insist, as was rumored, on $20 billion for a border wall? ...