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Chaos and alternative is just jumping into the unknown. and i believe that he has the will to do that. that is a lot of people that has changed in the past few days. so many faces that have been removed. we have some promising faces but we still, of course, have a lot of resistance and still have people who assume that things will go back to normal but they will not. egypt is a great country. it has a great young population. it has a great future and i think it is time now to let the future happen by the young people, not by -- >> why did you not join the government that was created about a we...

Continuing the stand-off. i think the people are very clear that mubarak has to retire, in dignity but he has to go. there's a huge question of credibility. people have no credibility, if he doesn't leave, the regime would retrench and then come back with vengeance. and you hear different voices. very clear he should go. frank wisner came with this statement saying that mubarak must stay which created a lot of confusion, lot of disappointment, i should say to you here in egypt. people who are very happy with barack obama's statement that the time is now. mubarak will be stubborn but it's not r...

Of iran and its replacement with an islamic republic. this fear comes from all over the political spectrum. if you listen to the more than conservative voices you think they are become to become the center of a knew cal fate. there is some danger events could spill out of control and nasty forces could come to power and seize control of the state. but egypt has many elements within the state and within its society that will check the role of islamic forces. the muslim brotherhood, the leading islamist party is thought to have the support of 25% of the population. and most of the other politica...

The system not allowing them enough -- we have made so many political changes in opening everybody. everybody knows the facebook have been one of many important factors that made this happen. but facebook was an outcome of the political reform. egypts have never restricted internet and opened up freedom of speech. i think we need to trust now in the young people of egypt and need to trust in the positive spirit that have been created. >> you said a few days ago that these events have taken egypt's economy back ten years. that's a pretty grim prognosis. do you think it will take that long to ge...

To be. it is positive for the rest of the world to support egypt in making the democratic transition, but i think it is not in the right of president obama or the american government or any other government to dictate on egypt what to do. >> if mubarak leaves, the military stays, the regime stays in power, the ones who oppose the reform stays in power. does anything change? >> well, i personally believe that the best scenario for egypt is for president mubarak to stay and finish his term. i think what president mubarak said four days ago is that very -- clear and very strong message for the tr...