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What can the united states do, if anything? what should we do to help alleviate tensions there? human karen aid is one thing. on that best we can. what's your greatest concern? >> the u.s. policy makes sense, support guaido, get humanitarian aid in, find countries to the support us. the problem is there's violence there, people are dieing. >> yes. >> we need some kind of peaceful envoy. i think we need to get the pope involved. he's argentine, american latin, the u.s., portuguese, gutierrez. we need a new dynamic and it's not us, because we're tied in too much with the reform movement, which i...

Collectively were can make a difference, and we have got to take seriously, all of us, the reality that if we don't act and act with a sense of urgency, it will be to our collective peril. >> amen to that. also, just a few moments ago, oprah winfrey released her interview with beta o'rourke who says he is still considering a run for the presidency. oprah asked what does he know for sure about immigration in the u.s. >> millions of people working the hardest jobs, contributing to their maximum capacity despite the fact they don't have citizenship and status in the country we must legalize begin...

Trump is his children. once michael cohen starts sharing details that may actually implicate him, you will see him truly become unhinged. >> is there a sense that michael cohen will go there? and do you anticipate if he does learning anything new from his testimonies? >> that's a great question. as far as the president's children in particular, i don't know. i'm certainly looking forward to hearing what he has to say in public about what his conversations with president trump himself or his proxys prior to his lying to congress about the trump tower moscow deal negotiations that were going on ...

Writing of the lengthy report that it would come out before the mid term or after the mid term. maybe there is something coming as early as not next week when trump is abroad, but beyond that, the week after that but maybe not. i think we in the media have got to stop saying that we know what is going to happen when we don't. >> you make a good point. bob, you heard schiff talking about the pressure on the a.g. william barr to release the mueller report. during the confirmation hearing did you get the sense by his testimony that he understood that that he is going to have to release this? >> i...