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Heinous killer when, in fact, the true evidence, martha, may eventually prove otherwise. martha: wow, very interesting developments. gregg jarrett with the latest. and in oklahoma a firefighter union's ad protesting a state gop bill that would limit their union rights, and this ad is coming under a lot of fire right now. some people think that it goes too far, and can it's insensitive. it invokes the horrible day of the oklahoma city bombing. >> there is a report of people inside. >> firefighters and paramedics are sworn to saving lives and protecting property. when our communities call, we'...

Saying, and i do want to get to that section of our discussion, but i'm curious if you think this is an appropriate use. >> >> absolutely, because -- martha: the oklahoma city bombing, and, you know, is this going someplace that is inappropriate to go? >> no, i don't think it's inappropriate at all because it's fact. those firefighters in oklahoma were there saving people's lives at that -- martha: absolutely, that's a fact. >> right? so i think that video we just all saw was a factual portrayal, something they did to put -- unlike the politician who's attacking them, they were putting their l...