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The general lack of respect for police in some communities, lax sentencing, untreated mental illness, poor police training, police cutbacks that have single officers responding to sometimes unpredictable situations may all be partly responsible. certainly, there are just no easy answers at this point. martha: it's heartbreaking to watch the funerals of these police officers. we've seen too many of them this year. doug mckelway thank you very much for the update on that. in the meantime in the battle over union rights, a union ad that uses images from one of the most horrific terror attacks on ...

Fight. martha: as you said, oklahoma voters will be the decider. simon and marc, thanks to you for weighing in. >> thank you. martha: all right, you have seen the pictures, and you have seen the violence. so why does america's homeland security secretary say that our southern border is now safer, she believes, than it has ever been? is that true? we're going to talk about that in a fair and balanced debate. our power panel weighs in. plus, there is this. beauty beats the beast. the beauty queen that was stripped of her title because she said she was accused of getting a little bit overweight...

If i say that these are the three questions i'm going to get afterwards, do you have answers to those? to me that is probably not what is happening right now. things have moved so fast and they don't have other answers. so they come up with this term it's a kinetic action overseas or whatever it was. it was so unclear and wonky and bureaucrat particular, it did seem to be a lack of leadership. it's not just the staff, martha, this goes all the way to the top. you need to have enough of a political tin ear -- you want better than a tin ear to realize you have a serious problem. martha: thank yo...

Tremendous, you know, loss of life. but then when you bring it up in discussion about collective bargaining and union rights and leadership of unions, it does leave a bad sort of, you know, smell, i guess, in some situations. >> maybe to you. maybe to you, but i think the people of oklahoma are going to make that determination. i mean, it may be the people on the show feel that way. i don't feel that way from watching that ad. i am incredibly, you know, grateful for the way that firefighters and police officers put their lives on the line every day. one of the heros, i mean, what's so ironic a...

Bill, oklahoma state senator david holt, is demanding what he is calling a tasteless ad -- the one you just saw -- to be pulled from the airwaves immediately. joining us now, simon rosenberg, president of the think tank ndn, plus former speech writer to president george w. bush, marc thiessen here as well. it is good to have you here today. simon, what's your take on this? >> i think it's a lot of whining from a politician. you know, in my years in politics if a politician's whining, it usually means they're losing. i think the republicans are losing the fight in states where they're having th...