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Would have ever expected. >> that's fair enough, hogan, thanks for joining us. >> no one would have expected it. we all. nobody believe. that's pretty far right, because i think it is. he was the secretary second to the last campaign that really matter. why did he quit? i think that in order to secure the amount of delegates we needed to, and a few things had to happen. we had to do well in pennsylvania, first and foremost. we knew that. we had to have newt jump out and push delegates and say, you guys have to support santorum. and the third was texas, it had to be winner take all by simple ma...

Supporting him in his presidential bid. >> why? >> well, it's easy to point to romney care as the issue why the tea party doesn't like mitt romney. it goes much deeper than that. the republican party didn't like him in 2008. not much has changed about him between then and 2012 but the electorate has changed a lot. we're more conservative. >> so joe, if not romney, who does the group support? santorum? >> reporter: well, there are some people who support santorum. there is support in this state for newt gingrich among others. i have to tell you. i talked to another congressman, jason from utah....

Had coming. so it has changed this race in new hampshire. >> speaking of south carolina, and santorum, i was talking to our reporters who covered santorum the whole triyears. and he said they have an organization on the ground in south carolina. do you know when santorum will get there in. >> reporter: i don't believe it will be before there is a debate saturday night. i don't think it will be before that debate. if you look at santorum's schedule, it is very much like the schedule he had in iowa. he has roughly two dozen events and radio interviews between now and saturday. almost all of them...

To hear what rick santorum has to say about all sorts of issues. and you're also seeing it in terms of what his other rivals are saying in this campaign. newt gingrich was giving an event, holding an event earlier today where he basically went after rick santorum and diminished his role in the congress when gingrich was bringing about the contract with america. gingrich said that santorum was really a junior partner in that republican revolution. and i had a chance to ask rick santorum about that. and senator, the form he senator from pennsylvania said, hey, wait a minute. he was involved in o...

that and it is tracked back to that. >> god forbid. these kids knew what they were getting when they signed up for the ad. so part of the program, they are losing weight. we're not finished. i have to go. thank you so much. live out of new york. now hour two. here we go. top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. rick santorum is expected to speak live this hour. we'll take part of that for you. also a big surprise concerning jobs in america today. and prosecutors want death by for a famous expresident. time to play reporter roulette. jim acosta, let's begin with you in new hampshire. yo...