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In 2008 where there were exercises between the russians went in. so russia has a lot of interest there. there's violence perhaps against ethnic russians and ukraine, i wouldn't rule it out. >> interestingly, the polish foreign minister just told christiane amanpour today that the thing that got ukraine president yanukovych in his view to step down was a phone call from vladimir putin. why would putin want yanukovych to step down? it seemed like yanukovych was doing what he wanted. was it this guy has no support -- >> move on. yeah. we don't know what sort of support yanukovych had of the ukrai...

Poles and we are about to a brandon them. like we did poll land and ukraine in 2014, because obama is not a leader of the free world or anything. >> there is another way it could turn out. the paratroopers take control and perhaps they go against the protestors and don't. what if it is b, colonel? >> you raised the critical question as far as the drama in the government. yanukovych called up the paratroopers to protect the property in kiev. and this is the old soviet model military. they are the toughest and best indoctorinated. if the military turns on the protestors it is game over. if eleme...

>> we saw putin in the winter games and you believe he is calling the shots in kiev. why then is ukraine, so critical to russia's future and critical to putin's control and power? >> first of all with russia's shrinking population it adds over 40 million more people and that matters. it puts russia back on the black sea and closer to europe and re-establishes the empire. and the problem is, you will hear a lot of nonsense in the media and russia always rules ukraine. that is not true. it is the eastern part and back ward industrial wasteland is by russia figures and support yanukovych and puti...