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>> the reality is his chief of staff, general kelly himself said, his incoming chief of staff, both said, a border wall will not solve the problem. that it is a simple solution, a 19th century solution for a 21st century problem. both of his chief of staff has e acknowledged that. inspect cargo, things that will actually secure the border, but he doesn't want to do that. he wants to shut down because he wants of fight and what he doesn't realize is there are over 800,000 federal employees whose lives have been adversely impacted, some devastated because of the shutdown. it hurts real people. >...

Wanted -- >> i wouldn't support it if hillary clinton wanted it. >> julie: it didn't get as much attention because it was a democrat that wanted it. trump being in office, probably the most hated president ever by democrats. >> it's a bad idea. it was ever idea it is, it's a bad idea. forget about president trump, it's a dumb idea. >> julie: it works in israel, do you agree? >> this is quite a different border than israel, quite a different border. there are tunnels and all kinds of problems with the border in israel, i wouldn't use that as an example. there is an easy solution here, if we had...

Congress. but right now the democrats are being hypocritical. i remember back in 2006 and even in 2013, the democrats did support a wall, they did see the necessity of it and the border patrol agents i've spoken to, the wall is essential. now that the government to shut down, let's try to get it resolved and come up with a solution we can go forward from. >> julie: what do you make of secretary nielsen's border visit? the democrats also want hearings to investigate the recent deaths of two children who were illegal immigrants who had crossed the border. >> obviously those deaths are tragic, ce...

More on this story from the white house. >> they say that mick mulvaney and vice president pence went over to capitol hill and gave chuck schumer a counter offer and they did not hear anything until last night when they heard democrats were not going to make another counter offer. last night the white house said that is what democrats told them but the incoming acting chief of staff claims that democrats have simply shut down the discussion. the administration's offer is roughly $2.5 billion of border security and a new wall or new fencing. >> we made that clear to the democrats that we are no...

Obstructionist democrats do not give us the funding to build the wall." if the threat to close the southern border is serious and asked why it would be worth the potential had to the economy, he said that all options are on the table. as for the democrats, a spokesperson for nancy pelosi said the democrats have offered republicans three options to reopen the government and they will only include funding for a strong, sensible border security but not the wall which they described as immoral, ineffective, and expensive. democrats have not been invited to the white house for discussion of late, t...