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Went wrong. listen to this. >> stupid wokeness. don't just look at virginia and new jersey, look at long island, look at buffalo, look at minneapolis, even look at seattle, washington. i mean, defund the police lunacy, take abraham lincoln's name off the schools, that -- people see that. and it is just really have a suppressive effect across the country. democrats, some people need to go to a woke detox center or something. expression of language that people just don't use and there is a backlash and frustration at that. >> joining us now, cnn's host of don lemon tonight, don lemon. he's the a...

Think that everyone is where they are on the spectrum when it comes to understanding what is happening in society. they're not. but i do understand the frustration of progressives when it comes to equality and wanting people to understand what it is like to be a minority in this society and wanting agency. but, is this a bad thing? no. if you're pushy about it and if you, you know, if you don't understand where people are, you don't meet people where they are, i can understand that. i'm not sure what the suppressive effect it had on this election, especially when you're dealing something -- so...

Trashing build back better, saying nobody elected joe biden to be fdr. and a democratic strategist who is smart but a dinosaur in terms of his way of thinking which is more center left but partly center. james carville believes his party lost its way and he is correct. >> what went wrong? >> don't just look at virginia and new jersey. look at long island and seattle, washington. this defund police lunacy and take lincoln's name off of schools. people see that. it's having a suppressive effect across the country. some people need to go to a woke detox center. >> sean: i think i finally won

Saying nobody elected joe biden to be fdr. and a democratic strategist who is smart but a dinosaur in terms of his way of thinking which is more center left but partly center. james carville believes his party lost its way and he is correct. >> what went wrong? >> don't just look at virginia and new jersey. look at long island and seattle, washington. this defund police lunacy and take lincoln's name off of schools. people see that. it's having a suppressive effect across the country. some people need to go to a woke detox center.

Virginia, and to some extent in new jersey, people got the message that those programs sounded good. somebody was going to have to pay for them. and it was going to be the taxpayer. >> neil: you know it's interesting? and i want to get into your book a little bit, because you talk about a centrist not necessarily being a matter of liberal or conservative, but there are bigger issues for your party or your former party to deal with right now. and no less than james carville kind of kept it this way on what the dash go take a look at this. >> defund the police is take abraham lincoln's name off ...