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Old-fashioned traditionalists. in some ways that made it easier even though the traditions were different, the devotion to tradition was the same. >> the mutual respect was as deep. >> exactly. >> that's usually the basis for a long-lasting relationship. >> with any luck. >> pat buchanan wants in. pat? >> your brother went to school with my brother, cokie. >> i see you there sometimes on sundays. you come across the river. >> we had our cyo dances. i'm sure barnicle will remember this, they knew who were the catholic kids. if somebody came in they didn't know, the priest would put him up again...

Here say is, just wait, we're not there yet. let's try to get a deal, let's try to get closer. they're trying to be practical about it and strategic about it. but i think that there is frustration on the progressive side about this and a great number of issues. we just were talking yesterday about the fact that guantanamo bay prison looks to be open indefini indefinitely. that was a key campaign promise. >> savannah, look at this. did you see "the washington post" this morning? i'm putting it up on your monitor right now. did you see dee-dee myers in the "washington post." >> reporter: i didn'...