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Sure-fire, go back to the devices. they have proven successful in mobilizing his base. as peter was just talking about, marc was just talking about. a core group of trump supporters who want to hear this. and, look, for all the talk about the persuadables and independents who traditionally decide elections, that block has been going for a generation. i think if you're looking at the approval numbers, the only chance you have to win states like florida is to turn out that base. >> i think that's absolutely right. this is a president who hasn't tried meaningfully to expand his base. what i find ...

Bizarre, fake intelligence company called sure fire intelligence that was the company that was reaching out to these women offering them money to tell stories about mueller. we found it all linked directly to jacob wohl down to the phone number listed on his website. redirected callers to his mother's cell phone. it seems like this is all one big interconnected web and we're not sure where it stands but the fact of the matter is that mueller took this very seriously and he doesn't want to take any chances. >> i think the word, the phrase fake news comes to mind. thank you. up next, voter ent...

Have examined robert mueller's career say there's not a hint of evidence of any misconduct with women around mueller. we do know there's been a long standing right wing campaign to discredit mueller. this appears to be part of that, stephanie. >> so this nonsense scam conspiracy theorist, where does he get his messages out? how does he spread these lies? >> well, there are reports that a company called sure fire intelligence recently created is involved in reaching out to these women, asking them to get on encrypted communications to discuss claims about robert mueller in exchange for money, s...

♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ joining me now ken delanian. thank you so much. what are the players and what are they trying to do? why did they go to the special counselor's office? >> i'm not sure i can make sense of it. the e-mail you mentioned, reporters have looked and have not been able to find any evidence she exists. the law firm that was reference say they have no record of someone working there. reporters began suscting this was a hoax designed to get them to cover this story. there was another e-mail sent to a vermont law professor named jennifer tubb and she e...