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The fault isn't in the dealers alone. you know, the drugs keep coming because we keep using. and i think there is -- there is a refusal to admit that often the drug war doesn't make things any better. we are seeing this with the opioid mess where we are trying to reduce -- we are reducing the legal ways to get opioids and that ends up in overdoses on fentanyl which one of the gentlemen spoke about his son dying on fentanyl. we still haven't addressed maybe the underpinnings of this story which sour desire for bolivian. >> jesse: people like to get i don'zonked out of their minds. >> greg: grea...

That there i was thinking the fault isn't in the dealers alone. you know, the drugs keep coming because we keep using. and i think there is -- there is a refusal to admit that often the drug war doesn't make things any better. we are seeing this with the opioid mess where we are trying to reduce -- we are reducing the legal ways to get opioids and that ends up in overdoses on fentanyl which one of the gentlemen spoke about his son dying on fentanyl. we still haven't addressed maybe the underpinnings of this story which sour desire for bolivian. >> jesse: people like to get i don'zonked out of ...