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Mueller as much as manafort was willing to tell mueller while still being concerned about perhaps threats from the russians if he told mueller everything. we have seen what the russians have done to people who cross them in london and elsewhere. >> right. >> so that doesn't surprise me. i do think that the gates information about how gates continues to assist in multiple investigations is realty important. because, listen, gates and manafort were co-conspirators together, no doubt about it. what we will find, and i'm sure mimi will tell you the same thing, when we investigate conspiracies and ...

Manafort. so is mueller about to be done with his investigation without fully flipping manafort. oh, by the way, without ever getting a presidential interview in front of the grand jury. former u.s. assistant district attorney and msnbc legal analyst. mimi, let me start with you. the significance of the gates delay and sentencing again we're sitting here on one hand today. the mueller report would have extra symbolic meaning to some writers. but here we were anticipating potentially a mueller report filing. are we overanticipating the mueller report find something could we be weeks away? >> we...