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Congressional investigators. i'm sure mueller has them. the interesting thing would be to know what does he know about that meeting. did he know more about it coming in? who else knew about that meeting. obviously that meeting is an important part of the collusion question. in that sense he could be very helpful to mueller. >> joyce, let me show you. we also know that paul manafort has lied. jonathan lemire used the word brazen. it's a good word to describe this clip and ask you about it on the other side. this is paul manafort at the republican convention. >> are there any ties between mr. tr...

Or didn't was wrong and i informed these people, is probably the road that he'll walk on. i agree though, the notion that you have to lie to conduct the business of the white house is knots healthy. it's not healthy for the white house. it's not healthy for the office of the presidency. it's certainly not healthy for the united states of america. we're going to have to shake this thing out. >> put your old fbi hat on then and you're chairman of a committee with investigate terror powers. if you see in the course of your investigation what has turned out to be a lie, what does that raise to you...

Counsel team. as part of that investigation, you see they'll talk to thousands, go through thousands of documents, talk to as many people as possible. it is quite possible they'll want to talk to the former son-in-law and see what, if anything, he might have that could contribute to the investigation. they'll have two trials, one in july, one in september. it is possible they may turn to him for a witness or talk to him to see if he knows anything that could bolster their case. >> this is the u.s. attorney in california involved in this. now there's a u.s. attorney in new york, southern distri...

That's him in fifth gear, basically. i'm with jeffrey on this. i think it's totally -- you know, i'm sure mueller is saying we should wrap this up as soon as too for the good of the country. >> right. >> does it have any bearing. >> it would get wrapped up a lot faster if the president submits to an interview with him. >> yeah. >> all right. now let's talk about what we keep learning about what michael cohen was up to and where he was getting money not leadup to becoming president and afterwards. at&t, as you know, is trying to buy time warner, apparently paid him not $200,000 but $600,000, je...

There is no legal precedent to oppose this merger. a vertical merger of this sort, where you have a distributor buying a content company, comcast did the same with nbc universal, has been something that's been approved by governments for quite so many time. vertical integrations are not illegal. and yet the president opposes them on potentially other grounds. >> well, we are going to -- well, at so many point we may find out what michael cohen did with the money. he's the guy who records everything. i'm pretty sure mueller has that information. i want to talk giuliani. has now officially left ...