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Didn't obstruct justice. of course. that's their job. >> i'm bemused they're doing this early. like preseason, lay out our arguments now and see what mueller gives us. it doesn't matter. this is what we of soon for this president, this tendency, i'm going to lay out my case early, lean on you, calling chub grassley right before his son is supposed to testify. >> that is a beauty. ethan, want to talk? >> he does these things all the time and doesn't realize this looks like you're obstructing justice or he's e looning on people really hard. his lawyers will make whatever complaints they want and...

What's really telling is the fact that they attempted to get approval from the kremlin and just could not. so there's a lot swirling around right here to make sure mueller will be interested in it if he's not already. >> so david, here's the thing. as pamela was just reporting, we know the proposal was under consideration from september 2015 to january 2016. it had progressed. sola in january 2016, this is all still going on, here is then candidate trump talking about putin. >> putin came out and said nice things about me and everyone went crazy. wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along wi...

Has been bullying and obstructing people. we learned this week he had called senators who had written legislation to make sure mueller would stay in place to back off. that he seems to be the leads here. some people are following his lead because the principal is acting inappropriately. >> do you believe in the democrat trying to protect the special counsel bob mueller from getting fired by the president, the fact that he wouldn't put his article on him not to support that legislation, no to the co-sponsor it? do you think that's an aspec of obstruction? >> he certainly made -- innocent people...

Fraud, on money lauraing, those are the areas i'm sure donald is highly vulnerable. he's had several transactions with russian oligarchs that make no business sense whatsoever, they only make sense if they're part of fraudulent transactions. there have been numerous examples of people who got mortgages with no underwriting because trump told various bankers to do so. the story of the clerk who misfiled in manhattan, we had the mystery of the missing manhattan sewage that was crucial to his efforts that failed later to develop the west side yards. i'm sure mueller's people are going to discover...

They have been persuaded to act improperly. it's not different with what the russians do as it was clear they were trying to do when they met with donald trump jr. last year. >> in terms of the president's legal representation, i am very struck by, as you were describing, the expertise of his team and the type of folks he's brought on and the kind of work they've done in the past, especially the contrast with the type of financial and tax experts who mueller has on his side of the ledger. if you were advising the president in terms of how to put together effective legal representation given wh...