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Personal knowledge of kavanaugh or haven't worked with him directly. i had a chance to talk with chuck grassley about this, the chairman of the judiciary committee. he met with kavanaugh yesterday and described the meeting on the surface level, for the most part. i tried to press him on one of democrats' chief concerns, whether he'll respect supreme court precedent, particularly on the question of roe v. wade. here is how kruk grassley answered the question. >> under the ginsburg rule, you wouldn't expect anybody to predict or focus his attention on something because they might be ruling on it...

Things that might pertain to the mueller probe? >> no. and because the process based on my reporting has been quite contained, it's don mcghan and the president meeting. he has been with the president since the start. he's had his own clashes with the president over the russia investigation, has been interviewed by bob mueller. he's aware of the sensitive nature of that. so they're trying to keep this process at a surface level, knowing the president has been briefed, and others have gone over the candidate's records, provided files to the white house. so this is really about a rapport with pr...

They had classroom instruction. they were playing pool. they were watching movies. they were in medical offices. so on a surface level in those 90 minutes, you know, i didn't see a lot of anguish. and we were not able to actually interview any of the children. but i met many of them very briefly, shook their hands. a lot of the boys waved at us, at the media, smiled at us. and a lot of them nodded their heads and said that they were okay. >> so you said that's on the surface level. what about deeper? >> you know, deeper, there's just a host of other issues, right? you have -- one of the things...

The last time something like this happened, was three generations ago. >>elizabeth: you talked a little about, we may have fought a war to distance ourselves. i'm curious as to what this does to the relations of the two countries. it's something we can kind of bond about. >> absolutely. if i put my ford affairs analyst hat on for a second, a wedding between the british royal family and an american could not have come at a better time for the monarchy. for britain. this has been a challenging year for the bilateral relationship as well as between the uk and the rest of europe. the brexit vote i...

In our economy. the president doesn't want to talk about that. if you sent everybody back i don't know what would happen in the fast food industry. they are being fuelled by people willing to take those jobs. >> and i think at a surface level the president may have been seeking to strike a tone with respect to reaching a deal on immigration. i think it is hard which is the iced immigration customs enforcement. they arrested people. when you hear from the criticism it's that this president will use his platform in a way that what they see is a coded language that seeks to criminalize this and m...