MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 10, 2019 23:18:00
The problem, which is whether the president habitually puts his own personal interests above the u.s. interests and abuses his power to do so? >> yes, he did. but what i'm saying is that if people don't quite see what was the big deal about this, or they buy one of the republican arguments -- they threw out an awful lot this afternoon. they threw at the wall. but some of them have a surface plausibility and so that's why i thought it would be about two or three subjects, they would have -- first of all, it would give the republicans more targets to have to defend. >> let me bring in mr. deitz....