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Affirmative action can be used. jeff sessions is taking the harder line approach. this shouldn't be a surprise given what we have seen playing out. it could certainly have an impact on college life and on the students who are applying. steve? >> all right. kelly o'donnell at the white house. stand by. we'll get to more with you on another topic in a second. staying on this beat for a second. a former mayor of new orleans and the president and ceo of the national urban league joins us now. thanks for joining us. >> happy independence day. >> your reaction to this, if you would. what do you thin...

>> reporter: president trump ignoring questions at an mlk day event on friday after railing against african immigrants from s-hole countries at a closed-door immigration meeting, suggesting that the u.s. should accept more people from places like norway. >> that's when he used these vile and vulgar comments, calling the nations they come from [ bleep ]. >> the president took to twitter with a vague partial denial saying his comments at the meeting were, quote, tough but this was not the language used. but a source close to president told nbc news, quote, he frequently uses that kind of languag...