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The analogy i would make is if these guys were irish americans, or from ireland originally, we might be inclined to jump to think it's the ira or terrorism associated with northern ireland. and i think it would be a mistake to leap to that conclusion. i think you're right to say the chechen angle may be part of it. it may be something else. it may be a fully domestic issue that animates them or has motivated them. so i think we need to be cautious about this. and i think you're right to say that. >> we were also talking, just before you came back up, how this is going to end. and the police we...

>> well, i think investigators will be looking obviously at these guys' e-mail and internet activity. we talked about major nadal hasan who killed soldiers at ft. hood in 2009. we described him as a home-grown militarized radical. that's not completely accurate. he was in touch with one of the leaders in yemen. he was given some sort of religious permission to do what he did at ft. hood, texas. that would be one kind of case you might think of, chris. another would be the somalias we've had literally dozen somali americans travel to fight in the somali civil war. these are kids who grew up in ...

There was activity there where you had a lot of law enforcement, a lot of law enforcement in tactical gear, riot helmets and the like. that was this morning. now, second location. you've got police questioning somebody. talking to somebody. but because of the way the cars are surrounding this particular individual, it's likely that he didn't have any sort of device on him. that's really what law enforcement is fearful of is, wolf, is this person on this wild ride, that he may have, in fact, dropped several pipe bombs. and that's the concern that officials are having. that's one of the big re...

You can think of some chechen-related violence. there has been this sort of thing. the bombs on the subways. this sort of mass crowd, surprise terror. that's the message that had been used. but, you know, i say that only in the context that they were originally from chechnya. at this point, we just don't know. >> i moon, whean, what we heard people, you're making a great point, you heard from the people that knew them, they were fully americanized. grateful to be here, said someone that knew them very well. loved being here. the older brother was trying to compete for the country as a boxer. t...