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Wasn't very violent there. there's no clear evidence that the psychiatric conditions that he was reportedly under treatment for were linked to his time in iraq or anything having his military service. there are a lot of unanswered questions now, and it's quite frankly irresponsible to jump to conclusions to suggest that his time out on the war zone led him to do this. >> when you look at the survey data that we've got now from veterans, and this is an extensive, it's a big survey size in the story, and it's an extensive look at them. what are we able to document about how veterans feel in term...

Four to five months. it was on the tail end of that conflict, at a time when it wasn't very violent there. there's no clear evidence that the psychiatric conditions that he was reportedly under treatment for were linked to his time in iraq or anything having to do with his military service. there are a lot of unanswered questions now. it's quite frankly irresponsible to jump to conclusions to suggest that his time out on the war zone led him to do this. >> when you look at the survey data that we've got now from veterans, and this is an extensive, it's a big survey size in the story, and it's ...

I want to talk to you about that survey more broadly, but i wonder if you feel like there's been sort of excessive focus on the fact that the suspected perpetrator in that case served time in iraq, without us having any sense of whether that might be relevant to this. >> well, i think everyone everybody sort of honed in on it and blew it oit of proportion, as you rightly point out. his time in iraq was four to fife months. it was on the tail end of that conflict at a time when it wasn't that violent there. there's no clear evidence the psychiatric conditions he was reportedly under treatment f...

Them an identity by mentioning their names and repeating their names, creates additional -- helps to create additional little monsters. we find that these types of crimes occur in clusters. so to that extent, lapierre is not that far off when he says how many are out there waiting? we have no idea. >> the data, we looked into the data on this copycat effect and there's been interesting findings in both directions. it's fairly unsettled. there's been some findings that suggest there's a copycat effect that large publicity of mass shootings induce people who are on the border of committing these...

Attention and the way we give them an identity by mentioning their names and repeating their names creates additional little monsters. we find that these types of crimes occur in clusters. and so to that extent, lapierre is not that far off when he says how many are out there waiting? we have no idea. >> the data, we looked into the data on this sort of copy cat effect, and there's interesting findings in both directions. it is fairly unsettled. there are finding that is do suggest the large copy cat of large publicity shootings i deuces those on the border of committing these things to plan t...